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Post by Torean Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:45 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there just a new rulebook out?
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Post by ar2 Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:03 pm

Torean wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there just a new rulebook out?

Prime Remix wasn't really a new rulebook. It was a reprint of Prime with all of the errata that had accumulated over time, and some cosmetic changes to specific rules and models. WM MKII will be a completely revamped system that will revise the entire rulebook, and retool the system to make it more user friendly, as well a changing most, if not all, of the models' point values. Models that are underpowered will either become cheaper, or will be retooled with new stats, abilities, etc. The same is true for models that are overpowered. MKII will not be released until quarter 1 of 2010, so there is still quite some time before we even start to see changes. In April we will have the opportunity to participate in open testing, and play with close to the final version of MKII. Gabriel will have the new rules by then.

Hope this helps. If you want more info, check out the main WM site; www.privateerpress.com.

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Post by Ovich Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:36 am

Hordes Metamorphasis is supposed to be coming out next week.
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Post by ar2 Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:17 pm

Ovich wrote:Hordes Metamorphasis is supposed to be coming out next week.

On the 25th. I believe Joel ordered one for Mario, and will have it for the release date.

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Post by dork_jedi Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:53 am

Broken off of Rick's post:
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galonso wrote:The Fury mechanic is better than the Focus mechanic and that's why they are changing it in MK II.

What do you mean they are changing it? Is WM getting the FURY mechanic? The would be great! I wonder what they will do.


I don't think they're going to change the Focus mechanic into the Fury mechanic, for the following reasons:
A.) Fluff - they have pages (and thus, money) of WM and IK fluff that talks about how the Focus mechanic works. Are they gonna throw that all out the window?
B.) Game seperation - PP has stated that Warmachine and Hordes are two different games which happen to be compatible and this is the main difference dividing the two games.
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Post by galonso Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:02 am

I never said they were going to change the Focus mechanic into fury.

Please go here for more details.

http://privateerpress.com/WARMACHINE/mkII/
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Post by dork_jedi Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:11 am

right, i wasn't saying that you were, i was providing an argument that they wouldn't if Guy felt they may change to it.

But taken out of context like that I can see how that can be easily misinterpreted
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Post by plodolo Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:39 am

I was just asking. I didn't mean "THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING?"
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Post by dork_jedi Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:52 am

plodolo wrote:I was just asking. I didn't mean "THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING?"
That is why you New version of WM? Confusingfail
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Post by ShadowMaster Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:23 am

Which core rules have changed, and how?
Additional details will be forthcoming, but some of the core rules changes in WARMACHINE Mk II include modifications to the warjack system rules, the unit formation rules, and the point cost system.

Every single model has been reevaluated from top to bottom for game balance as well as rules interactions to bring you the best tabletop gaming experience possible.

What are some of the most important changes to warjacks?
Like warbeasts, warjacks are no longer destroyed until they have lost all of their damage boxes. There are no longer “disabled” wrecks and “destroyed” wrecks; a wreck is simply a warjack with every damage box already marked off.

Furthermore, many of the attack penalties for performing power attacks have been reduced or eliminated, and most warjacks now have a higher MAT and RAT than before.

What are some of the most important changes to warriors?
The unit formation rules have been changed to eliminate the four types of formation (tight formation, open formation, skirmish formation, and cavalry formation). A model is now either in formation or not.

Units have also been streamlined significantly so that the number of stat profiles players need to remember is roughly half of what it was.

Will many models change in point cost?
Every single model will change in point cost. The point cost system has been retooled in WARMACHINE Mk II.
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Post by plodolo Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:46 am

First off, Ray you are so GAY!

ShadowMaster wrote:What are some of the most important changes to warjacks?
Like warbeasts, warjacks are no longer destroyed until they have lost all of their damage boxes. There are no longer “disabled” wrecks and “destroyed” wrecks; a wreck is simply a warjack with every damage box already marked off.

Furthermore, many of the attack penalties for performing power attacks have been reduced or eliminated, and most warjacks now have a higher MAT and RAT than before.

What are some of the most important changes to warriors?
The unit formation rules have been changed to eliminate the four types of formation (tight formation, open formation, skirmish formation, and cavalry formation). A model is now either in formation or not.

These are the two informations that interest me the most. I like the idea of removing disabled warjacks from the game. I normally destroy warjacks anyways since i dont like leaving stuff for my opponent to target spells and AOE's on. Raising MAT and RAT is also a good move IMO. Removing the types of formations is also good since it streamlines the game however, alot of things mention the formations so it would be interesting to see how they do this. I mean Shield wall req tight formation while CRA requires open formation. Would both of these require being "in formation" or would one be "in" and the other "out?" Also, are they taking out the "must meet unit cohersion" requirement? I like the fact they are upgrading the game and can't wait to see what they do. Well, at least I get to "beta-test" it in April.
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Post by galonso Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:52 am

Im disturbed by that image and the fact that Ray has it is disturbing too.
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Post by dork_jedi Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:14 pm

galonso wrote:Im disturbed by that image and the fact that Ray has it is disturbing too.
I live and breath Google Image Search
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Post by plodolo Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:27 pm

Google Image Search? What did you search for? Gay homosexual?
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Post by dork_jedi Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:32 pm

Actually Lichtenstien brought it up.
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Post by plodolo Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:36 pm

dork_jedi wrote:Actually Lichtenstien brought it up.

that would bring up gayness. I'm so happy my name is spelled Lichtenstein

Jerk -_-
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Post by ar2 Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:17 pm

dork_jedi wrote:Actually Lichtenstien brought it up.

Now that is funny! Laughing

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Post by rokassan Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:00 pm

I have underwear like that. Shocked
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Post by dork_jedi Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:05 pm

rokassan wrote:I have underwear like that. Shocked
I *thought* that guy looked familiar. You look different without your glasses Bill.
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