Ogres, is this right? *Important*
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Ogres, is this right? *Important*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiPkArYFCio
Very compelling argument. An official GW response from customer support was, to ignore +1 or 0-1 restrictions. Though an email would be sent further along to the bosses in England to truly verify. Then I would get an email.
Very compelling argument. An official GW response from customer support was, to ignore +1 or 0-1 restrictions. Though an email would be sent further along to the bosses in England to truly verify. Then I would get an email.
jspyd3rx- Chaos God
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
That is a good question.
Army Builder still has the restrictions enforced.
The Army Book would over ride the BRB
I'd watch for an update to the QK FAQ/Errata to see if they add this information. I'll ask the English Rule Lawyers later today when I have a chance to see how they'd play it.
Army Builder still has the restrictions enforced.
The Army Book would over ride the BRB
I'd watch for an update to the QK FAQ/Errata to see if they add this information. I'll ask the English Rule Lawyers later today when I have a chance to see how they'd play it.
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
Actually the FAQ says BRB overrides army book in regards to this. That's what the pages the FAQ says to ignore.
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The restrictions still apply..... but it sounds like it won't matter much.
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75509
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75509
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
No Biggie though. I have no problem fielding the units in the old way. I guess waiting for the proper FAQ to say "ignore all unit restrictions sauch as 1+, 0-1" which would be awesome.
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
Page 66-67 – Army List entry
Ignore this page and use the rules for 'Choosing Your Army' in
the Warhammer rulebook.
I believe the OP is correct. Nowhere in the armybook or rulebook does it detail what "0-1" or "1+" means.
Ignore this page and use the rules for 'Choosing Your Army' in
the Warhammer rulebook.
I believe the OP is correct. Nowhere in the armybook or rulebook does it detail what "0-1" or "1+" means.
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All FAQs were very specific about what words are changed, removed, etc.
The FAQ does NOT say to ignore those rules (0-1 and 1+)
Those rules are NOT listed on page 66 and 67
The FAQ does NOT say to ignore those rules (0-1 and 1+)
Those rules are NOT listed on page 66 and 67
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Yea they are. Very similar in the way the Tau codex has it as well.
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The Army Builder guys and Warhammer rules lawyers all see it the other way. Until GW updates it otherwise, I'd plan to stick with those restrictions to be safe.
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The army builder is not the official release. That one is from forum members. Double check, but I am pretty sure. I already called customer support. In first post.
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Let me see. My brother is fielding 2x Doomwheels, 2x lightning cannons and more at 3k. I can do 1x scraplauncher or 3x gorgers. Wow, awesome. I wonder what empire and how many flamers in DOC can go with. The rules explaining 1+ and 0-1 are on those pages that were removed. My list still works with old rules and that's what I can run for at the moment till I can get my daemons going. On a lighter note, me and my brother will be there Wednesday for fantasy.
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jspyd3rx wrote:The army builder is not the official release. That one is from forum members. Double check, but I am pretty sure. I already called customer support. In first post.
Army Builder is updated with the current rules. While not "official", you can usually count on the content as accurate. Both Army Builder 2.2 (from the Yahoo user's group) and 3.0 (from Lone Wolf) versions still show the Ogres with the restrictions you mentioned.
The post I linked is from where all the big time European Players post and debate stuff. They know all the rules very well. 3 reply all agree the restrictions still stand. 168 views and nobody took the other side of the argument.
While I think those restrictions should be lifted as old and out dated rules, they currently seem to stand based on 5 external sources we have at the moment.
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Your basing it on a preferred forum? I called GW. Hmmm. Doesn't matter at the moment. Models I currently own fill old way. Can you come in Wednesday for a game?
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Calling GW ruleboys is about as official as the bum on the corner making a judgment.
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I'm not trying to give you a hard time - I'm trying to make sure you don't plan a list you can't leaglly run.
I'm basing it on all the data I was able to collect on the topic. GW phone reps are wrong all the time.
Wednesday looks good ATM.
I'm basing it on all the data I was able to collect on the topic. GW phone reps are wrong all the time.
Wednesday looks good ATM.
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
I might be able to go wenesday to get a game in, im tempted to bring my Dwarves and see how much of an annoying army i can make of them. Although im lacking a bit on the cannon section, only got 3
Or maybe i'll bring my O&Gs and see how they work.
Or maybe i'll bring my O&Gs and see how they work.
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I'll be there wed
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
what is the foc for fantsy other then the point%
like is there a min max on number of core choices?
like is there a min max on number of core choices?
Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
hivefleet psychodelic wrote:what is the foc for fantsy other then the point%
like is there a min max on number of core choices?
25% max on lords
25% max on Heros
25% MIN on core
50% max on Specials - no more than 3 of the same unit in < 3K
25% max on Rares - no more than 2 of the same unit in < 3K
You MUST have 3 units minimum
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Is this one of you guys?
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75650
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75650
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
Nope, hairy area. Can be taken eitherway though.
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It's really up to the tournament organizer, anyway. In this case I doubt that whoever's running the tourney would give you a hard time about lifting these restrictions since basically every other army doesn't have to deal with them.
With Ard boyz, which is more official, I would just go by what the rep says. Since we don't have an official from GW attending our ard boyz, we should just go by consensus.
With Ard boyz, which is more official, I would just go by what the rep says. Since we don't have an official from GW attending our ard boyz, we should just go by consensus.
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
Difference though is one or three scraplaunchers. Eitherway, still learning the game; not sure if I will be ready by ard boys.
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
I found 3 entries in the TK book which limit units to 0-1
The "0-1 Rule" is not defined any where in the TK book
The 0-1 were not removed via FAQ
So there are other armies which still share the pain of these restrictions.
The "0-1 Rule" is not defined any where in the TK book
The 0-1 were not removed via FAQ
So there are other armies which still share the pain of these restrictions.
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Re: Ogres, is this right? *Important*
Yea, but for ogres. The rule was removed. It falls under and is on the page which is to be ignored as stated in FAQ. Under the choosing your army.
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