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Post by Death_Company_Orks Mon May 09, 2011 1:52 am

hey guys what do you think of this Blood Angels list???

HQ 1 - ASTOGRATH THE GRIM 220PTS

ELITE 1 - CHAPLAIN w/ Infernus Pistol, and Melta Bombs. 120 PTS
ELITE 2 - FURIOSO LIBRARIAN (Blood lance, Shield of Sanguinus.) 175 PTS

TROOPS 1 - [10] DEATH COMPANY w/ 1 PF, 2 Infernus pistols 255 PTS

TROOPS 2 - [6] DEATH COMPANY w/ Jump packs, 1 PW & 3 T-Hammers. 315 PTS

TROOPS 3 - [10] DEATH COMPANY 200 PTS

TRANSPORT 1 - DROP POD w/ Deathwind Launcher (for librarian dread) 55 PTS
TRANSPORT 2 - RHYNO w/ Armour, 2 Storm Bolters (for Troops 1) 75 PTS
TRANSPORT 3 - REDEEMER w/ Multimelta & Armour (for Troops 3) 265 PTS

HEAVY 1 - VINDICATOR w/ Shield, Armour, & HKM 180 PTS

HEAVY 2 - [5] DEVESTATOR SQUAD w/ 2 Missile Launchers, 1 Lascannon 135 PTS

The total points are 1995 PTS , can you guys tell me your opinions please and well if any of you want to try it in person then let me know also. Twisted Evil


NOTE: I've made the Changes that I think were necessary. Please tell me what you guys think now.



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Post by Death_Company_Orks Mon May 09, 2011 12:29 pm

i guess all you guys are SCARED OF THIS LIST!!!!!!! affraid lol!
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Post by KingdomCome Mon May 09, 2011 5:20 pm

I started to write something for this, but got tired and stopped. This list needs a massive overhaul to be effective in any way. 2 small scoring troops will get smoked, even with FnP. 1 of a lot of things makes target priority simple. You beat this list with reserves manipulation or deepstrike defense. If you face someone with both, you're boned.
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Post by Death_Company_Orks Mon May 09, 2011 6:20 pm

I get what your saying about the troops but they are not in the field for contesting units, well maybe the tactical squad is but the assult squad is there to assault and i have reserves also, what i feel is the biggest weakness of this list isnt the scoring units, its actually my anti-tank defence. what do you think???
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Post by KingdomCome Mon May 09, 2011 6:29 pm

Yeah, you're short on anti tank. Infernous pistols in all the squads would help, but before I go on I have to ask: What are you trying to accomplish with this list.
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Post by Death_Company_Orks Mon May 09, 2011 6:33 pm

well what i really wanna do its an all DC army, its for me to have fun but i want it to be competetive also. MY OTHER OPTION TO THIS LIST WAS TO COMBINE THE TWO FIRST TROOPS INTO ONE UNIT OF DC WITH 2 PF.
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Post by KingdomCome Mon May 09, 2011 7:29 pm

I'll check my army builder, I wrote something up like that a while back. When I find it, I'll post it up for you. (I'm using my phone to post.)
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Post by Death_Company_Orks Mon May 09, 2011 11:00 pm

oh, tight... Very Happy how are u doing that? is there an app for this forum or something ???? Shocked anyhow let me know if you find it, i think im going to change it right now. let me know what you think in a couple of minutes.
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Post by Death_Company_Orks Tue May 10, 2011 3:22 am

ok changes got made and now i think the list is better. note that the transports dont have to necessary carry those units. Twisted Evil
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Post by Death_Company_Orks Tue May 10, 2011 2:43 pm

so???? what do you guys think??
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Post by KingdomCome Tue May 10, 2011 3:35 pm

You have no scoring units.
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Post by KingdomCome Tue May 10, 2011 5:41 pm


2000 Pts - Blood Angels Roster - Death Company


2000 Pts - Blood Angels Roster - Death Company



HQ: Librarian (1#, 125 pts)

   1 Librarian, 125 pts ((C:BA, pg. 46); Unit Type: Jump Infantry; And They Shall Know No Fear; Descent of Angels; Independent Character; Psyker; Shield of Sanguinius; Unleash Rage)

      1 ...in Power Armour (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Psychic Hood; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Force Weapon)



Elite: Chaplain (1#, 130 pts)

   1 Chaplain, 130 pts ((C:BA, pg. 42); Unit Type: Jump Infantry; Descent of Angels; Fearless; Honour of the Chapter; Independent Character; Liturgies of Blood)

      1 ...in Power Armour (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Rosarius; Melta Bombs; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Crozius Arcanum)



Troops: Death Company (10#, 440 pts)

   1 Death Company, 440 pts ((C:BA, pg. 44); Unit Type: Jump Infantry; Jump Packs; Black Rage; Descent of Angels; Fearless; Feel No Pain; Furious Charge; Rage; Relentless)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Thunder Hammer)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Thunder Hammer)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Chainsword; Infernus Pistol)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Chainsword; Infernus Pistol)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword)

      1 Death Company (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Jump Pack; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword)



Troops: Assault Squad (7#, 148 pts)

   4 Assault Squad, 148 pts ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol x4; Chainsword x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Assault Marine with Meltagun ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Chainsword; Meltagun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Sergeant ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Razorback ((C:BA, pg. 35); Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Fire Points: 0; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Heavy Flamer)



Troops: Assault Squad (7#, 148 pts)

   4 Assault Squad, 148 pts ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol x4; Chainsword x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Assault Marine with Meltagun ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Chainsword; Meltagun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Sergeant ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Razorback ((C:BA, pg. 35); Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Fire Points: 0; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Heavy Flamer)



Troops: Assault Squad (7#, 148 pts)

   4 Assault Squad, 148 pts ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol x4; Chainsword x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Assault Marine with Meltagun ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Chainsword; Meltagun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Sergeant ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Razorback ((C:BA, pg. 35); Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Fire Points: 0; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Heavy Flamer)



Troops: Assault Squad (7#, 148 pts)

   4 Assault Squad, 148 pts ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol x4; Chainsword x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Assault Marine with Meltagun ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Chainsword; Meltagun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Sergeant ((C:BA, pg. 25); Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Remove Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Descent of Angels; The Red Thirst)

      1 Razorback ((C:BA, pg. 35); Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Fire Points: 0; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Heavy Flamer)



Fast Attack: Baal Predator (1#, 145 pts)

   1 Baal Predator, 145 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Assault Cannon; Heavy Bolter; Scouts)



Fast Attack: Baal Predator (1#, 145 pts)

   1 Baal Predator, 145 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Assault Cannon; Heavy Bolter; Scouts)



Fast Attack: Baal Predator (1#, 145 pts)

   1 Baal Predator, 145 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Assault Cannon; Heavy Bolter; Scouts)



Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 135 pts)

   1 Predator, 135 pts ((C:BA, pg. 35); Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Smoke Launchers; Autocannon; Lascannon)



Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 135 pts)

   1 Predator, 135 pts ((C:BA, pg. 35); Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Fast); Smoke Launchers; Autocannon; Lascannon)



Validation Report:

c-1. File Version: 1.20 For Bug Reports/www.ab40k.org; b-1. Roster Options: Special Characters; a-1. Scenario: Normal Mission; 1. Chapter: Blood Angels

Roster satisfies all enforced validation rules



Composition Report:

HQ: 1 (1 - 2)

Elite: 1 (0 - 3)

Troops: 5 (2 - 6)

Fast: 3 (0 - 3)

Heavy: 2 (0 - 3)



Total Roster Cost: 1992



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Post by KingdomCome Tue May 10, 2011 5:51 pm

The original list I wrote was lost to the army builder gods with the newly installed version, so i wrote this one up quickly. It's not perfect, but it's WAAAAAAAAY more balanced than the original list your proposed. Simple execution as well. 2 IC's in the DC, Baals scout ahead and make a mess of screening troops or light vehicles. DC bomb behind them getting cover and Libby providing cover for the tanks after smoke is no longer an option. Troops push forward as need and fast twin linked heavy flamers make xenos cry. Heavy preds move 6 inches a turn from corners to gain side shot angles. A couple of meltas for pewing av 14 and pesky dreads if need be. This lists focuses on controlling midfield and daring the opponent to get there while 7 vehicles and 30 marines live. Not perfect, but it's a starting point.
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Post by Death_Company_Orks Tue May 10, 2011 11:02 pm

I see how this list would be nice to run but i dont have all the models to fill that list. I have what you see above and a couple of extra terminators and scouts. so im trying to do it with what i got. lol! anyhow, what do you think of the list above?
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