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Corsairs of Umbar...Worst units in the game ?

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Post by Frantic Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:04 pm

I've mentioned this to some of you before...I think its a real let down that the corsairs of umbar are kinda crap. In the old skirmish rules they all carried throwing weapons (knives) at least ! that woulda been a little helpfull...

Corsair Raiding Party 25 points
Race Type M F S D A R C Mt
Corsairs of Umbar Man Infantry 6 4/4+ 3 3 8 1 3 -
Corsair Captain Man Infantry - 5/- - - - 2 4 2
Corsair Bo'sun Man Infantry - 3/- - - - 1 - 1

Wargear: Each company has hand weapons. The entire formation may be given either shields or bows.
Special Rules: Bo'sun.


Morannon Orcs 20 points

Race Type M F S D A R C Mt
Morannon Orc Warriors Orc Infantry 6 3/- 4 5 8 1 2 -
Morannon Orc Captain Orc Infantry - 4/- - - - 2 3 2
Mordor Shaman Orc Infantry - 3/- - - - 1 3 1

Wargear: Each company has hand weapons and heavy armour. The entire formation may be given shields.


Easterling Cohort 25 points
Race Type M F S D A R C Mt
Easterlings Man Infantry 6 4/4+ 3 5(7) 8 1 3 -
Easterling Captain - 5/- - - - 2 4 2
Dragon Knight - 7/- - - - 1 3 1
Easterling War Priest - 3/- - - - 1 3 1

Wargear: Each company has hand weapons, heavy armour and shields. The entire formation may be given pikes.

So why the hell would anyone ever take Corsairs over Easterlings? They should be 15-20 points per company. Unless you just want corsairs for fluff reasons you would have to be a fool to use these guys. At least the haradrim have their poisoned weapons and interesting things like the Harashin to give them a purpose to be fielded... hopefully these get errata because I think they are cool and I'd like to use them...but it seems like a waste of money to invest in a unit that is not competitive. Venting complete Smile
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Post by Hurricane Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:34 am

Very valid points. No, clue. Those should be 20pts per company.
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Post by jerryb Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:31 am

I think they should be 15 points.

I agree I think it is one of the numerous typo's.

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Post by Hurricane Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:19 am

Maybe that's why the FAQ is taking so long!
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Post by rokassan Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:49 pm

Frantic wrote:I've mentioned this to some of you before...I think its a real let down that the corsairs of umbar are kinda crap. In the old skirmish rules they all carried throwing weapons (knives) at least ! that woulda been a little helpfull...

Corsair Raiding Party 25 points
Race Type M F S D A R C Mt
Corsairs of Umbar Man Infantry 6 4/4+ 3 3 8 1 3 -
Corsair Captain Man Infantry - 5/- - - - 2 4 2
Corsair Bo'sun Man Infantry - 3/- - - - 1 - 1

Wargear: Each company has hand weapons. The entire formation may be given either shields or bows.
Special Rules: Bo'sun.


Morannon Orcs 20 points

Race Type M F S D A R C Mt
Morannon Orc Warriors Orc Infantry 6 3/- 4 5 8 1 2 -
Morannon Orc Captain Orc Infantry - 4/- - - - 2 3 2
Mordor Shaman Orc Infantry - 3/- - - - 1 3 1

Wargear: Each company has hand weapons and heavy armour. The entire formation may be given shields.


Easterling Cohort 25 points
Race Type M F S D A R C Mt
Easterlings Man Infantry 6 4/4+ 3 5(7) 8 1 3 -
Easterling Captain - 5/- - - - 2 4 2
Dragon Knight - 7/- - - - 1 3 1
Easterling War Priest - 3/- - - - 1 3 1

Wargear: Each company has hand weapons, heavy armour and shields. The entire formation may be given pikes.

So why the hell would anyone ever take Corsairs over Easterlings? They should be 15-20 points per company. Unless you just want corsairs for fluff reasons you would have to be a fool to use these guys. At least the haradrim have their poisoned weapons and interesting things like the Harashin to give them a purpose to be fielded... hopefully these get errata because I think they are cool and I'd like to use them...but it seems like a waste of money to invest in a unit that is not competitive. Venting complete Smile


I agree 100%. I was looking at them as well. Why waste the money? I love my Easterlings they are solid core troops with a good fight value and good armor. Thats why their the meat and potato's of my army.
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Post by jerryb Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:02 pm

I played Frantic's Easterlings last night (Tuesday) and that was a slug fest, not an easy game. A great army, well worth the point cost and a lot fun.

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Post by Frantic Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:10 pm

Well, those were my Haradrim. I own no easterlings Smile
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Post by jerryb Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:31 pm

Guess, I was punch drunk, you are right Haradrim with Suludan and Captain in each formation.

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