Storm Banner One Use only?

I'm asking this since a tournament is coming up soon.

Do we wish to keep the rule as RAW (Rules As Written) in the English version or do we wish to go with the majority (IE, every other language) and say that the item is one use only?

This can be a house-rule, I just want to bring it to a vote before hand.

Who knows how they typo'd the English version, but that's a one use only item.

As a honest and trustworthy Skaven player, i say we play it as it says in the book.

luis the young wrote:As a honest and trustworthy Skaven player, i say we play it as it says in the book.

Which book

luis the young wrote:As a honest and trustworthy Skaven player, i say we play it as it says in the book.

What army dont you play.

The Eldar Guy wrote:

luis the young wrote:As a honest and trustworthy Skaven player, i say we play it as it says in the book.

Which book

The one in Gods' language, English !

I'm going to order a Spanish book and force you to play with that!!

Los Ratones

It has to be a one use item.

It's 50 points , which means you don't even have to purchase an SB to field it. And the fact that it can basically shut down the enemies shooting phase and flying creatures for at the minimum of 1 turn is immensely significant from a tactical perspective.

But who knows? maybe it was meant to be a multi use item. Because the skaven player activates it at the start of enemy players turn and then must hope that it shuts down at the start of his turn. If it doesn't he must suffer the same effects. With Ratling Guns, Jezzails, Warpfire throwers, Warplighning Cannnons, Mortars, etc.. the rats are giving up a lot of firepower also.

Ovich wrote:It has to be a one use item.

It's 50 points , which means you don't even have to purchase an SB to field it. And the fact that it can basically shut down the enemies shooting phase and flying creatures for at the minimum of 1 turn is immensely significant from a tactical perspective.

But who knows? maybe it was meant to be a multi use item. Because the skaven player activates it at the start of enemy players turn and then must hope that it shuts down at the start of his turn. If it doesn't he must suffer the same effects. With Ratling Guns, Jezzails, Warpfire throwers, Warplighning Cannnons, Mortars, etc.. the rats are giving up a lot of firepower also.

Yes, because we all know that GW doesnt make items that are broken ! "reversed ward save" "miscast ring", "blade of realities" ..etc..etc.

The Banner also affects Skaven, Skaven have a LOT of shooting, and that gets screwed up as much as the other guys'.

luis the young wrote:

Ovich wrote:It has to be a one use item.

It's 50 points , which means you don't even have to purchase an SB to field it. And the fact that it can basically shut down the enemies shooting phase and flying creatures for at the minimum of 1 turn is immensely significant from a tactical perspective.

But who knows? maybe it was meant to be a multi use item. Because the skaven player activates it at the start of enemy players turn and then must hope that it shuts down at the start of his turn. If it doesn't he must suffer the same effects. With Ratling Guns, Jezzails, Warpfire throwers, Warplighning Cannnons, Mortars, etc.. the rats are giving up a lot of firepower also.

Yes, because we all know that GW doesnt make items that are broken ! "reversed ward save" "miscast ring", "blade of realities" ..etc..etc.

The Banner also affects Skaven, Skaven have a LOT of shooting, and that gets screwed up as much as the other guys'.

Don't sugar-coat it you too, it's a lot more gross then you think.

Storm Banner is -2 TO HIT.

lets look at the items listed above for what needs to roll TO HIT.

Ratling Guns: Yeah, it would suck for them, but with a short range the first couple of turns won't matter.

Jezzails: Probably the most effected by it, but you choose when it goes off, giving you first turn goodness.

Warpfire throwers: Don't need to roll to hit, so don't care, especially since they aren't considered warmachines

Warplighning Cannnons: Also don't need to roll to hit.

Mortars: Also don't need to roll to hit.

Neither does the Doom Wheel, so it doesn't care either.

The Skaven have a lot of shooting, but they also have a lot of stuff which doesn't roll to hit, which is what makes it gross.

Actually the banner says that "All non magic missile attacks that dont use BS to hit their target can only shoot on a 4+" . So, all those skaven weapons you mentioned need a 4+ before they can be used.
It actually affects Skaven more than anyone else, since most of our weapons dont us BS to hit, and those that do use our horrible BS of 3.
But i'll flow with whatever evryone decides, and when the horde of rafter rats start feeding on your decadent capitalist corpses i will have proven the supremacy of the master race !

You're not obligated to bring a shooty skaven army with the banner.

The Eldar Guy wrote:You're not obligated to bring a shooty skaven army with the banner.

You are not obligued to bring 2 Hydras and 4 assasins either we all do what we must !

Its comparative to the Ring of Hotek. If I take the RoH, I don't take magic.

The Skaven book is another sterling example of GW's extensive, hardworking playtesters and editors. They deserve a raise!
I voted one use only.

READ THE FUCKING BOOK!!!!! IF IT IS THERE THAN IT IS ONE USE ONLY IF IT IS NOT THEN YOU CAN USE IT!!!

scurrdi wrote:I'm asking this since a tournament is coming up soon.

Do we wish to keep the rule as RAW (Rules As Written) in the English version or do we wish to go with the majority (IE, every other language) and say that the item is one use only?

This can be a house-rule, I just want to bring it to a vote before hand.

when i get the book back i will show you!!!!!

i fear that i might have over reacted to this....lol

In hindsight, it would have to be one use only.

As it can be used at the start of the enemy phase and being that there is no way to immediately dispel it - you create a situation where the skaven opponent is under the effects for the whole game.

If it cancels out, you can just fire it right back up as it is still the "start of the turn"