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Post by ImAShakiraholic Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:03 pm

I will be running a Warhammer 40K tournament on NOVEMBER 6, 2010.

I will be running Adepticon missions with point modifiers.

Sign up here. Lists due 3 days in advance. (via Private Message)

Overall scoring will be based upon:
1) Battle Score
2) Sportsmanship
3) Army Composition

I want to introduce Painting soon but for now we will have a best painted squad award!

Questions, comments or concerns please post them here.


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Post by jspyd3rx Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:48 pm

Could you post or link to mission and modifiers?
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Post by jspyd3rx Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:25 pm

http://www.adepticon.org/wpfiles/2010/201040KChampPrimer.pdf

Is this it? Also, how many points is the tourny?
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Post by Dakai Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:48 pm

it might play
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Post by Vycem Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:43 pm

What do you mean by "Composition" under scoring?

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Post by jspyd3rx Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:50 pm

I really hope people can bring what they want to play with. I believe under comp score; that something like the first mission could hurt by neglecting foc slots?
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Post by scurrdi Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:57 pm

Hmm... what is the time frame for this event like? When will it start, and when will it end?

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Post by Dakai Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:31 pm

dan more then likly it is going to be a all day thing like our events
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Post by jspyd3rx Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:04 pm

I am assuming 2K? Are you really going to use comp? How do you figure that out? Hello? Bueller? Bueller?
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Post by Vycem Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:21 pm

Are you going to be using that shitty Adepticon INAT FAQ?

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Post by jspyd3rx Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:26 am

Still not completely sure on missions or even point size of armies?!?
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Post by Eisaac Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:34 pm

Look i'm down, but how many points and I've never played this mission type before, where can i see what they are? (PS i'm in with my new S. Wolves Very Happy )

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Post by NurgleNick Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:49 pm

Max has told me that he'll be doing 2,000 PTs, unless he's changed his mind. I wouldn't worry too much about the FAQs or Comp. Score or anything, but I'll keep yelling at him until he posts information.
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Post by jspyd3rx Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:03 pm

Thanks Nick! If he backs out, let me know and I can fill in to make sure it still goes on.
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Post by ImAShakiraholic Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:28 am

Sorry fools!

YES IT'S 2,000 POINTS!

I will be doing Adepticon missions. I don't know I'll pick some I've played before and enjoyed! Don't worry the missions are not biased.
I've read over the INAT FAQ and like the rulings so that will defiantly be in effect.

Comp score is basically to give needed points to fluffy lists and bring down cheesy lists that have three trygons, swarmlord with retinue and 9 hiveguard.
If that's your style then GREAT! However, don't expect to get a better score than someone who comes in with a generic space marine commander, one whirlwind, one predator and a random terminator squad!

-Comp only will be 1-10 additional points to your overall score.
-Battle points for each game you have the opportunity to win 22-3 points a round!
-Sportsmanship will be another 1-(to lets say)20 points. (AND I expect everyone to get 15-20 points unless you turn over the table!)
-I'm going to have a best painted category for single miniature or squad which will be given store credit!

-Time table will be 12~7:30
12-12:30 registration and list verification
12:30-2:30 Game 1
2:30-4:30 Game 2
4:30-5 Break
5-7 Game 3
7-7:15 painting competition and PRIZES!
7:15-7:30 Gloating and bullshit

Any further questions?
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Post by Smene001 Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:24 am

There should be at least a 5 to 10 min break between rounds to let horde players move to a other table. That way they don't affect the next player who is waiting to use the table he is at.

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Post by Eisaac Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:33 pm

7:15-7:30 Gloating, by far one of the best things about tournaments

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Post by jspyd3rx Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:38 pm

Max, we need the specifics about comp please. Not just "your list is cheesy". It takes at list two weeks for me to have a solid list. Will it be redundancy in an FOC slot or anything really specific? Please let us know as soon as you can please.
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Post by KingdomCome Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:50 pm

Comp is all kinds of fail.
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Post by jspyd3rx Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:56 pm

Yep, tourneys are supposed to rock hard. Not hand out lollipops and say good game. Tourneys need to be shark infested waters IMO.
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Post by ImAShakiraholic Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:29 pm

Basically, a good comp score will be given to an army that has almost no repetition in it, and some uncommonly used choices.

Comp is theoretically the basis of the codexes. The codexes are supposed to present lawful, fluffy, compy choices.

I will be lenient and will basically use this guideline:
Everyone starts with 10 Comp points.
-1: Special Characters
-1: Duplicate units (Troops do not count)
-1: more Elites, Fast Attack, or Heavy support than Troops
+2: 6 Troop choices

Off the top of my head that seems like a pretty easy and fair way of achieving a unbiased fair playing field.
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Post by Vycem Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:01 pm

"Off the top of my head that seems like a pretty easy and fair way of achieving a unbiased fair playing field."

Yeah... have you ever read the Necron codex? Half of their WWB rules relies on having duplicate units, and their troops are absolute shit. So...yeah.

Please explain how this is an "easy and fair way of achieving a unbiased fair playing field."


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Post by jspyd3rx Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:52 pm

Vycem wrote:"Off the top of my head that seems like a pretty easy and fair way of achieving a unbiased fair playing field."

Yeah... have you ever read the Necron codex? Half of their WWB rules relies on having duplicate units, and their troops are absolute shit. So...yeah.

Please explain how this is an "easy and fair way of achieving a unbiased fair playing field."

Very true, comp is ideal but is auto fail for some. Especially Necrons. This comp nerfs them even more and would make their units unplayable. That's how WWB works. Doesn't work unless another same unit is close by. So does that mean Necrons can't play this tournament? Would they be the only exception to this comp?
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Post by chef xenos Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:40 pm

read what he wrote! it says duplicate troops are ok!
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Post by jspyd3rx Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:51 pm

That's not the point. To be competitive with Necrons, you need redundancy to survive and allow WWB roles. Troops are the worst in game right now. Destroyers and wraiths are one of the only units than can get something done. Not taking more than one unit for any necron (not just warriors) unit will not allow you to make any WWB roles for that unit, should it get hit. This tourny comp score does not allow a Necron player to play in the tourny. Guess we should find out if there are any actual Necron players wanting to play.
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